The Hale Report Podcast Episode 29 - with Kevin Rudd

Lyric interviews Kevin Rudd, who twice served as Prime Minister of Australia, and who is now the president of the Asia Society. In addition to his many other duties, he is also working on his doctorate at Oxford and his subject is Xi Jinping. They also discuss Kevin's very important new book, The Avoidable War, The dangers of a catastrophic conflict between the US and Xi Jinping’s China.